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Post by Icee on Jan 8, 2005 10:44:45 GMT -5
Zap, I find it hilarious you say all that when actually 99% of the people here know Yoko didn't break up the Beatles.
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Post by nothingisreal2 on Jan 8, 2005 10:49:49 GMT -5
Zap, your opinion of Yoko is pretty much exactly the same as mine. ;D
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Post by CrowDish on Jan 8, 2005 11:21:29 GMT -5
Yeah. She was just an excuse. It was like... the boys stopped liking each other for whatever reason - too much time together, maybe, or conflicts of interest, whatever, it doesn't matter. But it just kind of happens gradually, and eventually, they find themselves at this point where they can hardly be in the same room as each other. At around the same time, John falls in love with Yoko, and Yoko is, for lack of a better word, weird. Probably because of that tension, he decides to bring her in to the studio and stuff, and I hardly blame him! If I had to be around a bunch of people I didn't like all day, I'd want to drag around someone I loved too. (I'm sure the whole Yoko-in-the-sessions thing benefitted him much more than it did her - she could have been home, not dealing with it at all!) And all of a sudden, 3 guys that hate each other (I say 3, because it seems that Ringo was always on fairly good terms with everybody), 3 guys that hate each other for no real reason, suddenly have this new excuse - scapegoat, per say - to blame it all on. Now they have a public reason to fight. When you've got as much publicity as them, you can't just decide to start fighting for no reason. So Yoko comes around - perfect! They use her as a center to fight, now they can break up the band and all skip off in their seperate ways, and it's not even their fault! And now it's 35 years later, and people still think Yoko's a bitch! It's the best kept secret in the music industry - Yoko was framed!
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Post by Zap on Jan 8, 2005 11:34:32 GMT -5
Zap, I find it hilarious you say all that when actually 99% of the people here know Yoko didn't break up the Beatles. Ugh, I know. I'm a Yoko Activist  |
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Post by me on Jan 8, 2005 13:59:40 GMT -5
If I'm correct on my research, George was extremely angry at Paul until the day he died. If I'm not mistaking it had been better since the Anthology in 1994 when they came together. Paul even sat and hold George his hand while he was in bed dying. |
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Post by xxobiwan201xx on Jan 8, 2005 14:06:56 GMT -5
yoko is well yoko. i think she is a cute woman and very smart. i like her, i don't feel she broke up the beatles, but she added to the problems, well thats my opinion. me, crow and fro had a game of who could find yoko in the let it be movie. good times...  |
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Post by CrowDish on Jan 8, 2005 14:07:43 GMT -5
Hahaha it wasn't so much about who could find her as much as... who could yell "YOKO!!!" fastest
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Post by ColdKarmaGrl on Jan 8, 2005 15:28:11 GMT -5
lol....when you get older, you could make that game into a drinking game....
Just a suggestion...
And the other day I was watching/listening to one of the music channels they offer on our digital cable, and I flipped on the dance channel. They were playing the remix of "Everyman....Everywoman"....I was like, "Wow..."
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Post by CrowDish on Jan 8, 2005 15:38:43 GMT -5
Haha drinking game XD Yeah, Nelli, I think that's a plan!
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Post by xxobiwan201xx on Jan 8, 2005 18:21:50 GMT -5
hells yes!
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Post by Icee on Jan 8, 2005 19:49:37 GMT -5
Haha, a drinking game...  Anyways back on topic. Crow I don't know if it was so much the Beatles that used Yoko as an excuse but the whole public. Can you imagine this huge news? The Beatles are breaking up?! Why? It must be that new chick hanging out with them all. Blame her! etc etc. Paul wanted to keep the band, Actually I'm not so sure about Ringo, But I think he wanted to go his own way, and with the other two I don't even need to explain. |
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Post by Zap on Jan 8, 2005 20:49:26 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaking it had been better since the Anthology in 1994 when they came together. Paul even sat and hold George his hand while he was in bed dying. Well, of course. Inside they both loved eachother. |
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Post by CrowDish on Jan 8, 2005 21:20:12 GMT -5
I know Ringo did want to go his own way but what I was saying about him was that he was nice about it. The other three were playing nasty little mindgames but Ringo was too nice for that.
But I do still think it was them that made the situation. There was tension when she was in the studio - it was obvious to see. And they were nasty to her and all that. Whether Paul wanted to keep the band and the others wanted to break or whatever, it doesn't matter, she was their excuse to fight. They needed something to fight over so they fought over her, but really, she was just their representation of all the problems they were having. I think so anyway.
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Post by Icee on Jan 8, 2005 21:37:06 GMT -5
If Yoko wasn't there, the fights would have broken out around the same time anyways. It wasn't just because of Yoko, and I know you're saying it wasn't but that was their excuse but sorry I don't agree with you. John didn't leave the Beatles because they were being nasty to Yoko, although they were. He just wanted to make his own album like he said. He just wanted to hear his album with each of his songs playing one after another. That's why the Beatles broke up.
And I don't know what you mean about mind games...
I don't think they were being spiteful behind each others backs.
And I don't think Ringo wanted any part of the fighting, Ringo's generally just a nice guy and wanted to experiment with his acting because he was told he was so good at it.
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Post by CrowDish on Jan 8, 2005 22:38:14 GMT -5
I think we're really agreeing without realizing it. I agree that, if Yoko wasn't involved at all, the fights would have broken out at about the same time. But I think that, in that case, some other thing would have become the "excuse." What I'm saying is that they would have fought no matter what but because Yoko happened to be around, she just became the "image" of the Beatles breakup. If it wasn't her, it would have been something else. That's what I'm saying.
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