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Post by EndlessRain on Jan 23, 2005 15:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by Icee on Jan 23, 2005 15:17:45 GMT -5
I think I know why....You know, she must be getting insulted all day. It would get tiring after a while to put up with it all.
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Post by nothingisreal2 on Jan 23, 2005 15:44:48 GMT -5
 Wow. I mean, I would think she wouldn't be happy about all that, but I didn't think she'd go as far to say she regretted marrying him...
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Post by Sgt.Honeypie on Jan 23, 2005 18:25:22 GMT -5
I feel bad for her personally. I don't think she deserves all the bad rap she's been given. But I don't think its fare to Paul for her to say she regrets meeting him. I don't know if that particular comment was necessary.
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Post by Icee on Jan 23, 2005 23:02:03 GMT -5
She might love him, but the pressure from the media can tear you, y'know.
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Post by me on Jan 24, 2005 12:18:21 GMT -5
Yes, i don't think she really meant it from the bottom of her heart when she said regretting to meet Paul. But the media can drive you crazy.
I think she loves Paul dearly and that she is happy to be married to him, she just doesn't like to be critisized all the time. I mean, if you marry a 'normal' guy, you will be happy and no one will bug you. But she's married to Paul...a former beatle, a very wealthy man who's in the media much...anything around paul is exposed in the media...and so is she. I think she knew that the media would give majour attention to it, but she didn't expect them to be so mean.
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Post by Mindy on Feb 7, 2005 20:36:22 GMT -5
I don't believe she's said that at all. People believe too much what reporters and media say, and that's what the media wants. But it's horrible. I can bet money that the public misconstrued everything Heather said:
Besides Paul is the man who would regret marrying him and he loves her, a lot:
Over the years people have written so much stuff about me. Some of it is good and some true, but much of it is inaccurate and leads some people to form a distorted view of me and those I love.
Normally I ignore it, telling myself that I can’t answer every single point and that most people know better than to believe it, and prefer to make up their own minds based on what they know to be true. Sometimes, however, these inaccurate articles affect my family and friends, and it is then that I’m tempted to put the record straight.
One person in particular, that some of the media can be wildly wrong about is my wife Heather, and it hurts me to see her wounded by these scurrilous reports, and not have anyone to put the record straight. Because of this I thought that it would be a good idea to tell the people who care about us, and believe in what we do, the truth about some of these ridiculous stories, which are made up by people we have never ever met.
Recently articles have appeared which need correcting, so here are my thoughts on a few of the points mentioned in them.
Heather makes me dye my hair……… not true. It is true that I colour my hair. Wow, Shock Horror! I’ve actually been doing this for many years now with varying degrees of success, but it’s my hair, and if you don’t like the result I’m afraid it’s just too bad, but it’s certainly nothing Heather suggested. I was engaged in this devilish practice years before I met her. I remember a strange blue dye dripping down my forehead on an Australian tour over ten years ago, but let’s face it, if I want to dye my hair pink, that’s up to me and no one else. The suggestion that it was Heather’s doing simply isn’t true.
The split between my former publicist Geoff Baker and me has also been attributed to Heather. The actual truth, which I had been trying to spare him the embarrasment of going public with, was that he had gradually been getting more and more unstable over the past few years. The last straw came when a group of friends and I went late one night to see the magician David Blaine doing a stunt by the side of the River Thames. I was keeping out of sight of a small crowd of photographers when to my horror I saw Geoff pointing me out to the paparazzi who then ran towards me in a feeding frenzy. None of us could understand why he had done this, but it was just another example of his crazy behaviour. After that I tried to let him down gently but it was my decision alone to let him go as I didn’t want that kind of instability around me. It was nothing whatsoever to do with Heather.
The awkward subject of the Lennon McCartney credits on our songs was also put down to Heather’s influence over me but this actually originated at the time of the Beatles Anthology in 1997 when I, foolishly perhaps, asked for my name to come in front of John’s on the one song, Yesterday. The request was turned down and even though I didn’t see why at the time, it’s something that I don’t have a problem with anymore. But it was plainly before Heather’s time and she therefore couldn’t have had anything to do with it.
The media sometimes suggests a rift between my kids and Heather, but in fact we get on great and anyone who knows our family can see this for themselves.
Heather and I recently decided to appear on the quiz show Celebrity Millionaire. It was something we had fun doing and incidentally we raised a substantial amount of money for our landmine charity Adopt a Minefield. It’s an insult to my intelligence to imagine me being coerced into something like that. In fact, were both fans of the programme and we had a good laugh taking part in it.
Heather is also, according to some of these mischevious writers, supposed to encourage me to ‘go to the opening of an envelope’. Really ? Compared to many people we hardly go to anything unless it’s connected with our charity work. Again, anything we do attend is a joint decision.
Some of the stuff that is written is plain malevolence but some of it is so ridiculous that I have to admit it’s funny. One rumour is that Heather has made me have plastic surgery. Now the truth, honest guvner, is that I haven’t had any done, but in flicking through a magazine recently I came across someone who appeared to know better! An LA plastic surgeon had a book out in which he claims I’ve had some work done! OK, now I know it’s not true, but this guy knows better. How ? The proof, he reckons, is that…..wait for it……my ear lobes are too low!…..and, says he, you know how you can tell people have had plastic surgery?……They deny it!!! At first I felt like entering into a long debate with him about it, but it’s so hilarious that I decided not to bother.
Although some of these articles can be funny, there are others that are plain malicious and you need to be strong not to be hurt by some of the cruel suggestions that flow from these people’s pens.
One of the most shocking recent statements was that “losing her leg was perhaps the best thing that ever happened to Heather as it fed her desire for self publicity” Imagine losing a leg, and dealing with it as bravely as Heather has done and having to read that on top of it!
She was reported to always be clinging to me, the inference being that she was too possessive. Never mind the fact that I love her holding my arm, the real truth is that often the surface of a floor or pavement can be dangerous for an amputee to walk on, and a little help from a friend can sometimes be appreciated. These scurrilous writers can’t be bothered to search for the truth of situations like these.
There are so many other misapprehensions that are spread by certain sections of the media that it is impossible to answer them all. I only hope that these words of mine help genuine people to get a clearer view of the realities of our lives, and encourage them to think for themselves, and not give credence to words by people who simply don’t care about the truth.
Thanks for listening.
All the Best,
Paul McCartney.
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Post by ibrake4whales on Feb 7, 2005 23:09:32 GMT -5
the end of that article was really cute
i like her holding my arm
how adorable!
but i can understand how she must feel, but not about how she regrets even meeting him!!
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Post by Mindy on Feb 8, 2005 6:24:34 GMT -5
*nods* Exactly.
I love him, that article was the cutest thing ever.
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Post by kermit on Feb 8, 2005 7:09:56 GMT -5
lol...I know i'm gonna get lynched and hated by most of you for saying what I'm going to say now, but it's better to get things out in the open.. hehe  I don't like Paul. I have my reasons. Mainly because he is a diva in the same way J-LO, mariah carey..etc.. are. I've heard from first hand sources the stuff he has done and how he treats his fans, and it's not nice. Not nice at all.  And even without those reasons, the fact that John and george didn't like him, is enough for me to feel the same way. Paul might always come across as the "sweetest" or "cutest" or most "charming" beatle, but behind that is a very shrewd, conniving businessman. He's been like that always.  There was a radio discussion about this on a local london radio station the other day. They were asking people why they think heather gets a hard time. well the obvious one of course is the fact that paul mcartney married her 5 minutes after Linda. Also about the age difference..etc.. I emailed in with my own personal which was read out live air. Here is the email I sent: (Iain is the radio presenter) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Iain, Like yourself, I'm not a big Mcartney fan, but I do love the Beatles and I personally think it was Paul who broke up the band. I can't help but feel a bit smug when Heather gets a hard time, taking into consideration the contempt Paul showed towards Yoko ono when she got together with John Lennon in the 60's. What goes around comes around. -----------------------------------------------------------------  sorry forum paul fans, but it looks like the INSTANT KARMA has got Paul and is knocking him right in the head. |
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Post by me on Feb 8, 2005 8:11:36 GMT -5
lol...I know i'm gonna get lynched by most of you for saying what I'm going to say now You bet you are  I don't like Paul. I have my reasons. Mainly because he is a diva in the same way J-LO, mariah carey..etc.. are. That's okay. Paul McCartney isn't here to be loved by everyone. i personaly think he's not a diva, but he's just famous. I really can't make the link between J-Lo etc and paul, because Paul is a man who really works hard and has worked hard for al the things he has achieved..and he did achieve more than most of the recent bladiebla singers. I've heard from first hand sources the stuff he has done and how he treats his fans, and it's not nice. Not nice at all. I wonder who this first hand sources are. Are they fans? And even without those reasons, the fact that John and george didn't like him. They did like him. Of course things weren't working al fine at some time anymore, but they all sorted it out and you must admit John and george weren't the sweetest either. Paul might always come across as the "sweetest" or "cutest" or most "charming" beatle, but behind that is a very shrewd, conniving businessman. He's been like that always. So what if he's a businessman. He cares for his job and his job is making music. He's very good at it, has been a member of the most influenced group ever. He makes money, yes he does, but he also spends it on charity. We would like to get paid for what we do for a living and so does he. There was a radio discussion about this on a local london radio station the other day. They were asking people why they think heather gets a hard time. well the obvious one of course is the fact that paul mcartney married her 5 minutes after Linda. Also about the age difference..etc.. I'm sorry, but what do you want him to do. I mean...Paul and Linda were a very happy couple. Linda was not only his wife but also his best friend. Linda wouldn't want him to stop living his life, she even told him to go on. Does your wife dying when you're in your late 50's mean that you are not alowed to marry anymore? I don't think so. Personally I'm more fond of Linda than Heather, but all I care about is that he's happy. It's his life, and of course I discuss about it with other people as well, but I don't judge it. He doesn't judge my life either nor yours. As for your email: what goes around comes around? The contempt Paul showed against Yoko, wasn't even at Yoko, it was at Yoko and John. Paul loved the Beatles as well as being a part of it and he knew their music made people happy. he didn't want it to stop. So he couldn't imagine John having more attention for Yoko than for the music. I don't want to start the whole John/Yoko/Paul discussion all over again, so I'll just leave it here. I just don't think that you can say that he and Heather deserve all this negative publicity, because that's what you're actually saying. It's okay, you are entitled to have your own opinion. |
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Post by kermit on Feb 8, 2005 8:53:08 GMT -5
so what if Paul is a man? he's still a vain and conceited person, which in essence is what a diva is. Worked hard? Well what's your defintion of "hard". There's a million people in this world who have worked 100 times harder than he ever has, and achieved 1% of what he has. I mean lets be realistic here, Paul is a great beatle, but by no means is he a Gandhi or a martin Luther king, or even a John Lennon for that matter. I'm very close friends with a number of people in the music industry and the design industry who have done work for paul over the years. I've heard stories about how young kids would visit the offices where meetings took place, waiting for autographs. But paul would never bother getting off his arse, to meet them. One time there was five 13 year olds waiting for an hour out in the rain. Pauls reaction was: "i'm not going out in the rain!". these aren't rumours or something i've read in a book. These are from people who have met paul first hand. Well I beg to differ. I have a video clip from the 80's where John Lennon and George are clearly gossiping about how much they dislike Paul. We don't know whats gone on within the band and behind the scenes all those years. We never will. But I do know that when 3 people (john, ringo, george) say something negative about a 4th person (paul). It must mean there is a problem with this person. lol...who other than a complete ARSE-HOLE would have the "lennon-mcartney" trademark changed to "mcartney-lennon". ;D You're telling me this isn't for money. you're telling me a "friend" of lennon would do this? Nowadays Paul is a business man first and a musician second. He's an enterprise. Let me ask you a question. Would you be happy if Yoko ono went and re-married tomorrow? Would you still be captivated by the "love is all you need" phenomenon in the same way. would we feel the same way about yoko? No we wouldn't. I wouldn't anyway. We'd feel betrayed and cheated and think that johns and yoko's show of love in the 60's was just a great big act. If you love someone, I mean REALLY love someone, then you don't marry someone else literally 5 months after your wife dies. I'm sorry, but if you believe this to be ok, then you have no idea what LOVE is. In which case, you cannot be blamed.  lol..whats the difference? so it wouldn't have mattered who john was going out with? paul would've treated any of johns girlfriends the same?  Why couldn't he just be happy that his "friend" had found the woman of his dreams? surely thats what a REAL friend would do. But no, like I said; Paul is a businessman. His priority is money. And the beatles staying together means money. I'm not saying they wholeheartadly deserve it, but they're asking for it. If you're gonna put yourself in the public eye as much as Paul and heather do, then they shouldn't be surprised if stuff like this happens. |
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Post by me on Feb 8, 2005 14:42:12 GMT -5
Okay here we go again. so what if Paul is a man? he's still a vain and conceited person, which in essence is what a diva is. Worked hard? Well what's your defintion of "hard". There's a million people in this world who have worked 100 times harder than he ever has, and achieved 1% of what he has. I mean lets be realistic here, Paul is a great beatle, but by no means is he a Gandhi or a martin Luther king, or even a John Lennon for that matter. I'm sorry, a John Lennon?? a John Lennon? Paul works his ass off, i'm sorry to say that. Okay, it might not be as "important" as other people's work, but he'd definetly working hard. You can't deny that, it's just a fact you don't like him being a businessman. Gandhi, Martin Luther King and so many others are not musicians...I wasn't even comparing Paul with them. these aren't rumours or something i've read in a book. These are from people who have met paul first hand. Who have met him or are around him more than 10 minutes (a day/ a week a month)? There are so many actors/musicians etc who do the same. Of course, you're right, I wouldn't be pleased if Paul doens't make time to give me an autograph while waiting for it so long, but it happens. Just like in the Lennon lost respect thing. These things happen and we found out that all the guys weren't as sweet, charming and loving as we all think. I just don't think you can say he isn't good for his fans. Well I beg to differ. I have a video clip from the 80's where John Lennon and George are clearly gossiping about how much they dislike Paul. From the 80's? We don't know whats gone on within the band and behind the scenes all those years. We never will. But I do know that when 3 people (john, ringo, george) say something negative about a 4th person (paul). It must mean there is a problem with this person. They had arguments? So what. it happens to people all the time. lol...who other than a complete ARSE-HOLE would have the "lennon-mcartney" trademark changed to "mcartney-lennon". ;D Now it feels like I'm defending the love of my life (which he's not...really ) But I wish you didn't say that. You don't know Paul, not personally, only from what you've heard/read, like I said before...don't judge him. You're telling me this isn't for money. you're telling me a "friend" of lennon would do this? Nowadays Paul is a business man first and a musician second. He's an enterprise. No that isn't for the money...where does it say the first name in the credits should earn more money than the second? Otherwise John lennon would have earned a lot more back in the days than Paul did....and than you must think John was a businessman... Let me ask you a question. Would you be happy if Yoko ono went and re-married tomorrow? I personally don't care much about what happens in Yoko's life. All i want is her to be happy, I know that's what she wants too and I know John would want her to be happy too. If you love someone, I mean REALLY love someone, then you don't marry someone else literally 5 months after your wife dies. I'm sorry, but i must say 5 months take a long time at your place. Linda passed away in 1998 and he married Heather in 2002.....i can't make 5 months of that. I'm sorry, but if you believe this to be ok, then you have no idea what LOVE is. In which case, you cannot be blamed. Okay, now my fingers have been itching the whole time I replied to this, becaue I really feel the need to say something about this. You don't know me...so you also don't have the right to jugde my experiences and knowledge about love. I think I know exactly what love is. Certain things happened in my life which weren't pleasant at all. I thought I knew what love was. I really did, but I found out I didn't. Like I said a few things happened and now I have the right to say I DO know what real love is. I'm sorry, this really made me sad, cause this is something that goes on me personally. And like I said, you are not the person to judge me about that. I'm not saying they wholeheartadly deserve it, but they're asking for it. If you're gonna put yourself in the public eye as much as Paul and heather do, then they shouldn't be surprised if stuff like this happens. Okay, what did they do, if I may ask you, to put themself in the public eye as much as you think they do. They're famous, people want to see them. And besides, they also are just normal people. A normal guy and a normal woman who are in love and are allowed to do the things they want to do. |
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Post by kermit on Feb 8, 2005 15:21:45 GMT -5
lol...woaaaa, relax. Don't have a cow man. It's not the end of the world if I think Paul Mcartney's a bastard. There's no point trying to explain anything to you, because for some bizarre reason you take any insult to Paul, as an insult against you personally. Please, get a grip. The difference between my opinion and your opinion, is that I am looking at things objectively whereas you are stuck on cloud nine with your Mcartney dreamworld, and wont have a word said against the man. A bit like this ------->  I am judging Paul as a human being. Not as a musician, not as a famous person, not even as a beatle. I'm judging him and disliking him in the same way I would judge and dislike my neighbour if he behaved the way Paul does. I don't give a toss if he's a beatle. He's an arrogant wanker, in my humble opinion, who people wouldn't give the time of day to if he wasn't an ex beatle. And if by saying this I am somehow upsetting you, then maybe you should grow up a bit. There's more important things in life you know. I don't understand why we're having this argument anyway. This is petty. I don't understand why some people in this forum feel the need to have a 'favourite beatle', and argue to the death the fact that he is better than the rest. I mean, admitedly, my favourite is John, but that has nothing to do with him being a beatle. John is my favourite human being. I don't care if was with the rolling stones, the who or even ABBA for that matter. I'd still think he was great. ;D and yes, A John Lennon. "A" meaning one of a kind. Meaning Paul Mcartney isn't even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Lennon, when it comes to contributions to humanity and influencing people. Once again, this has nothing to do with the beatles. It goes further than that. It's about the true character of a man. His convictions and what he stands for. Mcartney doesn't have my respect, and he doesn't have the respect of a lot of beatles fans I know and have met. REAL fans who have followed the beatles before you and me were even born. Who have been around in the 60's, and have seen Mcartney slowly but surely turn to the laughable diva he is today. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D p.s. I meant the tv show was from the 80's, not the actual clip. |
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Post by me on Feb 8, 2005 15:41:22 GMT -5
The difference between my opinion and your opinion, is that I am looking at things objectively whereas you are stuck on cloud nine with your Mcartney dreamworld, and wont have a word said against the man. A bit like this -------> I'm not living in that world. Else it would be very diffrent He's an arrogant wanker, in my humble opinion, who people wouldn't give the time of day to if he wasn't an ex beatle. And if by saying this I am somehow upsetting you, then maybe you should grow up a bit. There's more important things in life you know. I do know, so let's just leave this, becaue I'm sorry, but now you're just really are beginning on my nerves. I'm not personally affected by this you know. Frankly I don't give a damn about what you think. This is a Beatles forum and evrybody's aloowed to have an opinion, wheter someones else agrees with that or not...so are you. You're sounding like an old man. I don't understand why we're having this argument anyway. This is petty. I don't understand why some people in this forum feel the need to have a 'favourite beatle', and argue to the death the fact that he is better than the rest. What do you mean? So you're saying I, Mindy and Joanna for example can not say Paul is our favourite? Just like hannah and Emma can not say John is theirs? Like I said. this is a beatles forum and people are allowed to say anything, even that. We're not saying the favourite is better than the rest! I mean, admitedly, my favourite is John, but that has nothing to do with him being a beatle. John is my favourite human being. ;D and yes, A John Lennon. "A" meaning one of a kind. Meaning Paul Mcartney isn't even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Lennon, when it comes to contributions to humanity and influencing Your entitled to think that. REAL fans who have followed the beatles before you and me were even born. Who have been around in the 60's, and have seen Mcartney slowly but surely turn to the laughable diva he is today. We are all REAL fans! p.s. I meant the tv show was from the 80's, not the actual clip. |
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