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Post by Jane on Apr 2, 2005 3:12:06 GMT -5
John Paul II is a wonderful man, he loves the people, expecially young people, he made great things to promote the peace and the dialogue between the different religions...
I live in Italy, as you know, and here there is a sad atmosphere. The TV is always transmitting news from Rome and in a report I heard jewish and islamic people saying they're sad for the Pope and that they'll pray for him. It is undeniable that this man made something very important for the world, he made everything with the power of love, and I think that everyone has something to learn from this...
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Post by xxobiwan201xx on Apr 2, 2005 11:56:45 GMT -5
i heard about this and i pray for him.
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Post by xxobiwan201xx on Apr 2, 2005 15:15:05 GMT -5
my aunt just called me and told me the pope just died. god bless him. at least he is at peace now.
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Post by nothingisreal2 on Apr 2, 2005 20:21:22 GMT -5
I agree, Nicole. I knew it was his time, and even though I'm not Catholic, it's still sad. This part isn't something to laugh about or anything, but they were talking about the rituals they go through after a Pope dies, and someone said they hit him (not hard or anything) three times on the head with a silver hammer. I immediately choked on my coffee and started singing Maxwell's Silver Hammer at the top of my lungs.  |
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Post by Paul'sbird on Apr 2, 2005 20:33:39 GMT -5
 I did the same thing!!!!
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Post by Emma on Apr 2, 2005 22:55:57 GMT -5
Ack, I did too.
However, I'm very sad that he's gone, poor man. He went through a lot at the end there.
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Post by ibrake4whales on Apr 3, 2005 0:44:42 GMT -5
ok i dont want to sound stupid or anything... but who takes over after the pope dies?
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Post by Emma on Apr 3, 2005 0:59:59 GMT -5
I googled "choosing new pope," and this is what I found:
After 15-20 days of `General Congregations`, sermons at their Titular Churches and mourning for the Pope after his funeral, the Cardinal Electors enter the Conclave to choose which of them will emerge as Holy Roman Pontiff.
Upon entering the Conclave, the Cardinals must take an oath to follow the rules set down by the Pope and maintain absolute secrecy about the voting and deliberations. The penalty for revealing any of these secrets is automatic excommunication.
The Cardinals take seats around the wall of the Sistine Chapel and take a ballot paper on which is written `Eligo in suumum pontificem` -- `I elect as supreme Pontiff...`. They then write a name on it, fold it, and then proceed one by one to approach the altar, where a chalice stands with a paten on it. They hold their ballots high to show they have voted, place them on the paten, finally sliding them into the chalice.
The Cardinal Camerlengo and his three assistants count the ballots. Each assistant reads the name silently, then aloud, then writes it on a tally sheet and passes the ballot to the next assistant. When the ballots reach the third assistant, he runs a needle and thread through the centre of each ballot to join them all together.
The ballots are then burned, as well as all notes written during the vote. If a new Pope is not elected, the papers are burned with straw to produce black smoke. White smoke, produced by burning the paper ballots alone, announces the election of a new Pope.
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Post by me on Apr 3, 2005 4:26:26 GMT -5
I'm not catholic and I don't have anything with the pope. But it's always sad when someone dies.
I felt sorry for him the last time I saw him on tv, breathing for air...hardly moving... He was an old man and has achieved many things in his life. i don't agree with him on many points, but no one deserves to be in pain like he was the last days. But he was 84....a "good" age to die and I definately think this is the best for him.
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Post by wrestlingdog the sequel on Apr 3, 2005 7:10:07 GMT -5
agreed
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Post by Zap on Apr 3, 2005 9:04:27 GMT -5
What Jan said.
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Post by Icee on Apr 3, 2005 9:59:54 GMT -5
I also agree.
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Post by lookingthroughyou on Apr 3, 2005 10:55:18 GMT -5
I agree. he looked like he was in pain when I saw him when he visited canada, and peoplehave been expecting this for months.  poor pope. I heard about the black smoke white smoke thing...  |
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Post by nothingisreal2 on Apr 3, 2005 11:12:51 GMT -5
Holy shooot. Like I said before, I'm not Catholic, but I can't help but feel a little more connection to him after reading that he: a) Was a friend of Bono (who called him "the first funky pontiff") b) A Bob Dylan fan c) Owned a Lucille (of the B.B. King variety). See here for more: www.vh1.com/news/articles/1499424/20050401/index.jhtml?headlines=true |
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Post by ibrake4whales on Apr 3, 2005 13:03:00 GMT -5
thanks emma..... now i dont feel stupid!!!
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I did the same thing!!!!
poor pope.